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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:35 pm GMT EthGMT 
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... oh, and btw, that $1.00/W does sound good. They say they are already sold out for the next 12 to 18 months though :(. It "seems" real, but like SolarGuppy, I too am WAY skeptical. There have been WAY too many scams saying the exact same thing. I'll be interested to see a few of their panels installed before I jump on the hype machine. Also, I'd like to see how efficient their panels are. I know they say they opted for cheaper manufacturing costs vs. efficiency, but still, if a 180W panel is the size of a parking lot, well...


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Sorry for the spam. Here's a link to the Popular Science page on their technology. Like the solar cells they produce, it's a little "thin."

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/flat/bown/ ... em_59.html


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HAH. In maine you cant get any more than a $2000 rebate and thats if you have it professionally installed. All that did was get local installers to up their starting rate for installation to $2000 minimum. Thats why rebates in Maine are USELESS!!!!! This is why I'm a do it yourselfer.


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dbixler wrote:
And just think, if you live in Florida and act SOON, your system is FREE! Florida has that awesome $4/W rebate :).


Yes, I added 5kw in June, a great portion of which was paid by the Florida Rebate Program. I have 12kW online now ..


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dbixler wrote:
... oh, and btw, that $1.00/W does sound good. They say they are already sold out for the next 12 to 18 months though :(. It "seems" real, but like SolarGuppy, I too am WAY skeptical. There have been WAY too many scams saying the exact same thing. I'll be interested to see a few of their panels installed before I jump on the hype machine. Also, I'd like to see how efficient their panels are. I know they say they opted for cheaper manufacturing costs vs. efficiency, but still, if a 180W panel is the size of a parking lot, well...


i like you am very skeptical as even if they manage $1/w i'd like to know how well it's made and how long it'll last as like in guarantees, what it will output/area (efficiency), etc..
what do you mean they're sold out for 12-18 months? did they tell you that? to be sold out means people either already have them or they prepaid them for vaporware. or could it be most likely this is all bull chit? :roll:


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There was the NYTimes story I posted in Wind-Sun that said they were sold out for the next 18 months of production... And a couple of web video's of a VP from a few months ago that said they were sold out for at least 12 months of production...

-Bill


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I read on their site I think, that the first 3 production panels are used for display peices and museum pieces. 1 of the 3 is supposed to be available in an E-Bay auction as a historical peice or something. The other is going to a museum and the last is going to the companies lobby for display. The rest are being shipped to various utility scale power plants around the world. The first of which is in Germany.


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i wasn't calling into question dbixler's word, but rather that of the company's word. sorry if you got the wrong impression from me. ok so they made a few pvs and sold them all, big deal. it gives an impression of large scale production and it is not necessarilly large scale. i merely express my skepticism as they may have only producing 10 pvs in the course of a year. we just don't know as words can twist true meanings or give different impressions just like my word may have been misconstrued of its meaning, but theirs could've been quite deliberately made to be so misleading.


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No, I think its a good thing to question information. It leads to people looking for better sources and then we all become better informed. So my position is, question away! After all this is a forum, and just because it is posted in a forum doesn't necessarily make it true. 8) Don't you agree?


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I believe it's posted on their web site that they are sold out for their first 18 months of production. I think their plant isn't even built yet, and construction time on a plant is probably at least 6 months+. Anyhow, I'm hoping that this is true because it will be a boon for mankind :). It's probably good it's not a public company.


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